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Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:58 am
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Yesterday was my birthday, being a fixed star specialist, i can be rusty on other areas of astrology, to me my birth quintiles has always made me confused, how can i use them better?

I remember that Clare Martin, president of the Faculty of astrological studies telling me by mid-points that i must use the completed grand quintile through the Moon, years ago before i was disabled and was a student there....i took that to mean as my Moon was in the tenth house to study mundane astrology.

I've also used South Mean Node as a point, some astrologers use true node, others mean node, both are applicable as link shows:-

http://north-node.com/astrology-tutoria ... north-node

There was a reason why i looked at my nodes closely....and by using them i got a further partial grand quintile.

All strange alignments can confuse astrologers, and although quintiles can be known as minor aspects, if you have as many as i have i think it is a major influence in my life, so is there any way you can tell me how to use them better, any help would be very welcome.

I've sent Maurice the quintile chart, you will have to wait for it to be shown. Thanks.

Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:12 am
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interesting! (and happy birthday!)

Monk that link doesn't explain any bit why you choose mean nodes over true nodes.


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Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 10:05 am
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Ha Ha Maurice, you know you have to press hard with me, and rightly so, as i am looking for help from astrologers.

Firstly Please note, i never thought as such that the quintiles applied to me, but a history through previous lives of studying Phi, the golden radio, 1.618 etc. etc., and the great philosophers that have interested me from the time when i was a small boy with mathematical equations, like Pythagoras and Plato.

My way through this maze was "Am i expected to get to grips with a previous life study, that wasn't completed?" Being an esoteric astrologer yourself, you will know why i chose the thread name "monk".

Please note i'm not good with links that have brackets, thus when links come up look for searching for similar in wikipedia and click on that, which will lead you to link:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentad

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_tri ... athematics)

My approach can be different to standard astrology....astrology was never my first love, sacred geometry was...i knew that the pentacle was the symbol of Sirius.....i desparately wanted to know what i was studying in previous lives to give me confidence...true node didn't show connections, that left me thinking!

So i looked at when Sirius was rising on my chart on date of birth, and found it rose with the Head of the Dragon/Hydra looking at it in the East, graph on the way!

The Head of the Dragon in symbolism is North Node, so i felt it is an area i should study in this life, link to Dragons head below:-

http://www.astrologycom.com/nodes.html

Some may say i'm too simplistic, but it is how i was taught as a psychic, to follow my instinct, before being disabled i was a member of The College of Psychic Studies....i've always been good with patterns and how they work...i've used that with my code to mundane astrology and how the electional part of esoteric philosophy works....its easy and simple when the code is broken, but not before!

http://www.collegeofpsychicstudies.co.uk/

However a few years ago i still needed confidence, and thus looked for a connection to previous lifes...true node didn't give the answer, but then i saw it was easy to change settings to mean South node, and by doing so, astrologers didn't see this was suspect, indeed it was only an astrologers choice....so it was here i found the connection to an uncompleted grand quintile.....so knew that i hadn't completed the connections in a previous life....you may think this is simplistic...but it is how i was taught as a psychic to follow the first thing that come into my head!

Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:37 pm
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Hello Monk,

Happy Birthday! I too have been very drawn to the pentacle (symbolized by the number 5) in this life and in past lives with a sincere relationship and devotion to it. Anyway, I think quintiles are the aspects associated with the Goddess. 72 degree angles mean you have specialized creative and mentally brilliant gifts. They are subtle aspects and are meant to be activated consciously.

From an EA point of view your SN in the 7th, tail of the dragon squares Venus Mercury Jupiter in the 10th with NN in Sag the 1st if I'm reading the chart right. The square implies an avoidance of the Venus Mercury Jupiter (teacher of the Goddess, learning to accurately perceive for the community or royalty, also to come into your body) function in the past.

It looks to me as if you held a position of great importance and power where you offered esoteric teaching to the masses. The Venus component is important here. You are meant to truly embody the principles of Mercury Jupiter via the body, not just the mind which the quintiles would gear you towards, lots of mental energy.

Are you a writer? teacher? artist? how do you use all your creative energy?

It is interesting that the missing link is in the 7th house though, the house of Venus. Someone else on this forum knows more about quintiles and astrology than I do though.

Here's a link with great description of quintiles http://www.aquariuspapers.com/astrology/2007/01/quintile_tredec.html

I like this link even better, http://astrotribe.tribe.net/thread/755db8ff-21c0-446c-8db1-cf69cfca652e
http://holisticastrologer.blogspot.com/2008/08/quintile-aspect-creativity-and.html

Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:04 pm
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Also from this chart I can't tell how many quintiles you have?

Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:48 pm
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I'm a little pushed for time now, but will get back to you.

Firstly Bast, i greatly appreciate the trouble you have taken with this, and wish to thank you!

I'm not sure i should count them all but even the cardinal points are quintiles, and both the Sun and Moon are roughly equal distance apart with the M.C. in the middle...if i was to count all...probably 19 or 20 quintiles.

My career was in music...which probably doesn't surprise you.....however i only become aware of my quintiles about 10 years ago....please don't feel sorry, but i was stripped of my whole life, relationship, job, ability to walk and drive due to disability, as i rebuilt myself i found the quintiles, which was strange as i had studied Phi for years.

Please note i'm usaully polite, but i did write on the bbc open university forums about ancient philosophy, mathematics, and esoteric alignments of secret societies....to write this stuff on a science forum you must be prepared for heated debate, one that would try to get me going was a guy called William McCormick, who was always in other threads trying to call me a nut, ha ha! Anyhow he greatly admired Benjamin Frankin, which in reality i do, but got back at him by how many bodies were found in his London home in the last few years that date from the period....i do regret my comments!

Anyhow i'm just setting you up for showing the link, and explaining the heated exchanges, it shows some of my research on Phi, Mathematics and the Cosmos that may interest you as you are akin to Phi study, i start writing under "monk" from thread section #15, as usual you can change page at bottom there are 3 pages. Sometimes i like to promote astrology, as outside astrology forums most people consider us all nuts, which is a trifle hard as most countries are aligned to Sirius or Alnilam by electional astrology...perhaps i press the point a bit much on this thread ha ha!

http://www.open2.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13507

Hopefully Maurice won't mind the link, the moderators have a rigid policy, so there isn't any bad language, infact you have to wait till the next day before your post is seen, they have a good look in what you are writing before showing it.

I'm writing a book at the moment however i keep on adding research so worry if i can complete it.

Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:53 pm
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Monk,

First Happy B-day!

And indeed you do have a number of Quintiles. No wonder why music was attractive to you. The rulers of your Nodes are conjunct and sq. the Nodes. Mercury-Jupiter 3/9 house themes seem prominent in your chart. Have you ever considered writing? Its never to late ya know. Somehow I think you have something important to say that others would find interesting too. Maybe not on the lhe level of JK Rowling, but then her writing doesnt advance knowledge so much.

Anyway I am going to post your chart which show exclusively quintiles. No Biquintiles.

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Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:51 pm
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[quote="gruff" Have you ever considered writing? Its never to late ya know. Somehow I think you have something important to say that others would find interesting too.[/quote]

That's what I see too.

Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:38 pm
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Yea I had read what you wrote. Just wanted to chime in too.

I'm think'n he'll meet some hotty editor type who will help him stay focused a little bit. :P
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Post Mon Aug 09, 2010 9:57 pm
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Happy Birthday Monk!

All I know is that quintiles represent creativity, that as Wendy said, is to be developed. The creativity need not come in the arts, it can manifest in many ways. Obviously it applies to your music career in the past, but also how you look at the world a bit differently than others--along with Palla in Aquarius--being aware of the Fixed star alignments.

Don't have the links but Donna Cunningham has an article about Quintiles in her Wordpress blog.

Also, can google interpretations of Harmonic Charts, think with the 5 (more) quintiles in the chart Gruff posted, you could look at the interpretation for the 5th Harmonic Chart, which is, I believe, based on Quintiles--don't know offhand, but think it is from the Vedic.

Post Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:45 am
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Happy Birthday Monk!!!

Monk wrote:
Some may say i'm too simplistic


You are not simplistic at all...not for me anyways :cry:
"I come from a long line of truth seekers, lovers and warriors"
Walk tall, Learn the Language of Nature, Love~Music.

Post Tue Aug 10, 2010 7:39 pm
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Yes, personally I prefer true things to mean things...also an instinct! ;)

I beleive that your true nodes are still within orb to the quintile.

In any case, what a beautiful pattern! Frankly...I don't have a meaningful interpretation for that specific pattern.

From other angles, the Saturn in Scorpio square to Pluto, locking on your Nodes are the astrological causative factor of your handicap - this is not something I can speak about openiy without your permission, so let me know if you want me to write about it here or over email.

It does point to involvement in secret (Scorpio + Pluto) knowledge (9th house Pluto), and church reaction not flying well!

Chiron in your 3rd house (mobility) also shows the restriction - Chiron's lesson in 3rd house Aquarius can point to having put too much emphasis (pride?) on the mind and intellect - a genius that needs to acknowledge his other faculties.

With Mars in Pisces quincunx Neptune in the 12th House - the message is one of compassion, forgiveness, and surrender to divine grace.
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Post Wed Aug 11, 2010 12:21 pm
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Hi Maurice, and all other posters, i thank you sincerely for your insight!

Kick my butt Maurice, what do you see?

I hope it wasn't an abuse of power in a previous life, i would rather it being that i was too afraid to follow through with tasks, thus being a wimp, in the end i am just a simple monk looking for my God, please show everything on thread....i know i have made mistakes, and i can be stupid in some things, no one is perfect......don't spare me anything on thread, i want to know....and please, on thread not private......i see problems involving myself in the previous life with the Christian faith, even though i was a Christian, but i don't see clearly. What do you see with my disablement etc etc?

A word for others.....disablement isn't a factor for doing something wrong in a previous life....there are many factors involved!

Post Wed Aug 11, 2010 4:19 pm
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From what I see, your "cryme" was not really abuse of power per se, but an over-zealous attitude wherby you identified corruption in religious institutions (Saturn in Scorpio, square 9th House Pluto) and took it on to expose, crush, and basically purge these dark forces in operation. Though your intentions were noble, you did it self-righteously and clearly did not acknowledge the limits of your power (Mars in Pisces quincunx Neptune in the 12th House - "I'm the hero of the day"). You did not realize that you could not defeat evil with your own "bow and arrow" so to speak--and it is likely that you used secret knowledge (magic) in your struggle to fight these powers. So there is karma in that whole thing... (mercury, ruler of your South Node (knowledge/information), squares that same Saturn in Scorpio (kept, secret, etc...))

I will email you about the other issue...
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Post Wed Aug 11, 2010 6:48 pm
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Thanks Maurice,

It doesn't surprise me, i expected it, its just the damn fool thing that i expected in a previous life, so in metaphor and symbolism i was a medieval constantine as in the film....damn idiot!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0360486/

Thus i hesitate in writing a book on the subject....even being as moderate as i can be, i'm not sure i should publish....thats when it hits the fan, writing on forums doesn't create the interest that a book does or the trouble.....its not easy writing a book where for example, Japan used esoteric knowledge for all the battles it planned from 1890 through to 1944....should i publish? Hell, i still hesitate to go further, however i don't like secret knowledge, it is better hopefully in the hands of the people, i only use my pen in this life.

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