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monk Evolving Being
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Recently in the U.K we have just finished 13 years of government by the Labour Party, so many political books usaully are published, thus Lord Peter Mandelson is promoting his book called The Third Man....i haven't read the book, however had to giggle over the way he promoted it!

Peter Mandelson worked behind the scenes, behind Tony Blair and Gordon Brown and was noted to "Spin" webs in the media, thus behind his back he was called the dark lord or the prince of darkness, so while promoting his book he looks very spooky as if he is reading from a magic book, it made me remember some research i did on the origin of the Labour party thus prompting this thread....link to video below:-

http://www.wikio.co.uk/Video/man---lord ... ir-3669916

As he looks as if he is reading a fairy story, i will begin the same way...in a lot of ways it isn't a dark story, and would lead to the independence of India.

"As the leaves fell during the Autumn of Terror,1888, when Jack the Ripper lurked in the shadows, an 18 year old diminutive male from India arrived in London, he was very lonely and had come to study law...his mother told him not to eat meat as he was a vegetarian. He was directed to one of few restaurants that existed in London, the people he would meet there would change his whole life philosophy....his name was Gandhi".

Now if i said that the vegetarian society was esoteric now......you would laugh, but when we go back to the 19th century, it did attract mystics following Pythagoras who if you remember was a vegetarian.

In the next thread section we will look at the Early Vegetarian society, below is a link to Pythagoreanism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoreanism

monk Evolving Being
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One symbol that Pythagoras used was a pentacle, in esoteric symbolism today this can mean either Venus or Sirius.

Below is a link to the Vegetarian Society:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarian_Society

You will note it was founded on 30th September 1847, in Ramsgate, Kent, U.K. The Sun rose on that day at 06:03:01am,....as the Sun rose, Sirius was Culminating on the M.C. by paran.

I'll send Maurice the graph.

At the time Henry S. Salt had a big influence on Gandhi and his emerging philosophy, as he had written a book on Henry David Thoreau, links below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Stephens_Salt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_David_Thoreau

http://www.henrysalt.co.uk/intro.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience

Although Gandhi couldn't always stop violence, i must say i liked his principles, which is my opinion.
During the height of the British Empire there were a lot of social reformers that didn't agree with our position in India, and this led to an alliance between those interested and had sympathy for Indian mysticism and the Hindu religion, and those social reformers that thought having an empire in India was wrong, strangely, much that helped Gandhi, was discussed in the Vegetarian restaurants of London in the 1880's.

Another group that had many members that were vegetarian was the Fabian Society, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Society

I will explain the links tomorrow.

monk Evolving Being
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My rules never change when looking for a code....it is sunrise, midnight or sunset, thus the day is marked with the foundation of esoteric societies, however sometimes they are sneaky and swap measures to the projected measures not parans, thus when we look at the foundation of the Fabian Society at one of these three points, being midnight on 4th Jan. 1884, we find that Sirius is aligned to the M.C., its not a correct measure, but its all astrology, i dont need to show this as any astrology programme shows the projected measure.

monk Evolving Being
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You might say i read too much Harry Potter, and i must say i get confused over symbolism:-

Is J.K.Rowlings meaning Frank Podmore, when the character in the books is Sturgis Podmore?

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Sturgis_Podmore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Podmore

Is she meaning Emmeline Pankhurst, as the character Emmeline Vance

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Emmeline_Vance

http://www.fabians.org.uk/about-the-fabian-society
Please scroll down link to famous members, Pankhurst was a member, as was E. Nesbit (Railway Children)....hold on wasn't E. Nesbit an alleged member of the Hermetic Order of Golden Dawn ??

Is Kingsley Shacklebolt a code for Kingsley Martin?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingsley_Martin

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Kingsley_Shacklebolt

Would FABIAN Prewett be a code for the Fabian Society

http://harrypotter.wiki.com/wiki/Fabian_Prewett

List of alleged members of the Golden Dawn Below....scroll down to Known Members to see E. Nesbit included

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_O ... olden_Dawn

We mustn't forget Sirius Black, must we, son of Orion (Belt of Orion?) and elder brother of Regulus....that has a whiff of the Theosophical Society, so did they visit Vegetarian Restaurants? I'll show links later, link to Sirius Black below:-

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Sirius_Black

monk Evolving Being
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Sadly the Spooky fun video of Peter Mandelson promoting his book that made me grin and prompted this thread isn't available on first thread section link.

I've found another link below:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y77T0Yb9sc&NR=1

Will continue tomorrow.

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monk Evolving Being
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Now Gandhi was meeting with Helena P. Blavatsky and Anne Besant via Vegetarian restaurants etc. etc.

Links below:-

Http://www.blavatskycardiff.care4free.n ... 201890.htm

Theosophy and vegetarianism explained below:-

http://www.ivu.org/history/besant/index.html

Now Annie Besant was also a member the Fabian Society, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Besant

Please note i'm explaining, not knocking!

So its about time to look at the Theosophy Society Foundation Act, being the evening of Wednesday 8th September 1875.

This link will show the hand written details, when image comes up please left click on image till it becomes larger to read:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St-1ata.jpg

Again i never try to break with the code....look for an alignment with either Alnilam, Belt of Orion, or Sirius on one of the four angles at midnight sunset or sunrise.....as the meeting was an evening one then sunset on 8th Sept. 1875 is most likely,this happened in New York at 18:16:48pm, while Alnilam is aligned to the Nadir......sometimes projected and paran will show the same as in this case, by projected in 1875 Alnilam was 21* ll 44', you will note that the Nadir or I.C. is within a degree of that. The Paran shows the same, chart being sent to Maurice.

Thus the Theosophy Society has been intentionally aligned to Alnilam/Belt of Orion/Osiris, by the nadir and sunset at location.

monk Evolving Being
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The above hand written page comes from this link, look to right as you scroll down:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theosophical_Society

Now Annie Besant also was heavily involved with the Eastern Order of International CO-Freemasonry, i've never belonged to an esoteric society, but if you scroll down link to "What is Freemasonry it mentions the Mysteries of Isis.

Again scroll down to "Ceremonial and Inner Energies" and it mentions that Freemasonry is Magic...perhaps there is little difference with the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn? Perhaps by aligning Sirius and Alnilam to dates is magic?

http://comasonic.net/

monk Evolving Being
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Now to get some info we could look up Blavatsky's birth chart....but i've found something very curious here, link below:-

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Blavatsky,_Helena_P.

Now i have no doubt she was born on 12th August 1831, when you look down to "source notes" they all agree it was on 12th August, please note that Russia was following the Julian Calendar so when 31st July is mentioned, 12 days have to be added.

However they all mention different times, Rudhyar was trying to say align it to the projected rising of Sirius etc. etc.

Yet the time given is 02:17am.....obviously someone is guessing....but why guess this time?

I'm sending chart to Maurice showing Alnilam rising at that time by paran....i'd call that manipulation!!!

monk Evolving Being
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The above link seems to miss out the dot on astro.com, however link will say "there is currently no text in this page SEARCH FOR THIS PAGE TITLE" click on this which will lead you to Blavatsky Chart and the guessing time of 02:17am!

Tomorrow i will be investigating the date shown on this link, being 14th January 1893 in Bradford, Yorkshire, U.K.

http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetai ... ?EDMID=581

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Monk, this is totally fascinating!!!

I wish there was a school where I live to learn all about this myteries!!!
Or I could find some body like you, with so much knowledge...
Anyways, I believe in "TRICKERY". ;) In magic?...well, some times.

Keep going I love it!!!!!!
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Walk tall, Learn the Language of Nature, Love~Music.

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Again i never try to break with the code....look for an alignment with either Alnilam, Belt of Orion, or Sirius on one of the four angles at midnight sunset or sunrise.....as the meeting was an evening one then sunset on 8th Sept. 1875 is most likely,this happened in New York at 18:16:48pm, while Alnilam is aligned to the Nadir......sometimes projected and paran will show the same as in this case, by projected in 1875 Alnilam was 21* ll 44', you will note that the Nadir or I.C. is within a degree of that. The Paran shows the same, chart being sent to Maurice.


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however sometimes they are sneaky and swap measures to the projected measures not parans, thus when we look at the foundation of the Fabian Society at one of these three points, being midnight on 4th Jan. 1884, we find that Sirius is aligned to the M.C., its not a correct measure, but its all astrology, i dont need to show this as any astrology programme shows the projected measure.


this increases the odds of having an alignment with one of these bodies...

the code is having projected or paran of Sirius and/or Alnilam on one of the four angles - at sundown, midnight, or sunrise...
There are 12 possibilities per day for one of them to occur. Using projected, and not only paran widens the scope.
How often statistically do you see it happen (projected over paran)?
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monk Evolving Being
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Great...Maurice you must push me all the way...i'm saying these are conscious human alignments....agreed i may be wrong....but it is win win, if they are not conscious alignments they will show the importance of Sirius and Alnilam to world events, please please push me in debate....it isn't personal, you know i truly respect you!

No there isn't 12 possibilities of this happening by paran in one day, i said there are 24 days in a year when Alnilam or Sirius at a location when they can align out of 365 days!

You are right to say that using the projected measure changes the odds....however during my last posts i mention the auspicious date of 14th January 1893, in Bradford, Yorkshire, U.K., the Fabian society was involved to the foundation date of the Independent Labour Party...this is the North East of the U.K.

You will note if you are looking at an alignment in the South East, being London.....whatever i'm looking at will be a few days earlier by paran...take note this will come up later!

At the moment i'm looking at People Connections....firstly the estimated time of the birth of H.P.Blavatsky looks as if it has been doctored...doesn't it?

Annie Besant's brother in law was Walter Besant....one of the founding members of one of the most respected research masonic lodges around the world, being Quatuor Coronati Lodge No. 2076.

Link to Walter Besant below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Besant

You will note that William Wynn Westcott was a founding member of the Golden Dawn, and the Quatuor Coronati Lodge, link Below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Wynn_Westcott

In truth i can't show that George Bernard Shaw, Playwright and icon of the Fabian Society had any involvement in esoteric societies....but he had a roving eye for the girls...some of the important girls in his life either by mistress or help with his career, came from the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn... links below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florence_Farr

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_horniman

William Butler Yeats was also an Irish playwright and poet....he came from the same playwright background as G.B. Shaw...there are many connections between them...they talked!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Butler_Yeats

Yeats was a member of the Golden Dawn!

Perhaps we need to look at the charter of Quatuor Coronati Lodge and the Golden Dawn....agreed?

monk Evolving Being
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I made a mistake with the link to Annie Horniman, link Below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annie_Horniman

Lets start with Quatuor Coronati Lodge 2076.

Special date for the above is 12th January 1886....you know what is coming for Bradford, Yorkshire on the 14th Jan....don't you?

Further more Quatuor Coronati is named after master masons put to death on 8th November 298/300AD in Rome!

Link for dates below:-

Http://www.mqmagazine.co.uk/issue-11/p-56.php

I'm sending parans to show why it was named after mason martyrs on date and consecration date of Quatuor Coronati Lodge....both dates show similar alignments, please show on thread!

Next we will look at the Charter of the Golden Dawn!

monk Evolving Being
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Good and bad esoteric societies sometimes have a thing about Wagner's Ring!

Here George Bernard Shaw talks about an inner circle of adepts:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Perfect_Wagnerite

Opps, thinking of childrens books again...."In the Land of Mordor, where the shadows lie!

There are examples of children's books having codes, ha ha!

I wonder where Tolkien got his idea of the dark doors of Moria from?

http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/ring.html

I'll be looking at the "Inklings" later

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inklings

Actually there has just been a code found in the Narnia fairy stories, link below:-

http://www.planetnarnia.com/

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